I'm not a big fan of Michael Moore...his movies skew the truth to make a point. Most of the time, it's a valid point...but there are certainly better ways of doing it without hurting other people's reputations.
This all sounds very nice, but I wonder if it'll make a difference.
If you say something crazy more people listen to you. I think he is his way because that is how he gets more attention. These things he says can never happen simply because the people who run the country are the big money people, not the everyday Americans as stated in the first line. 400 to 150 million, that is an outrageous number.
Couldn't they help out? But they would never. Then CEO's making almost 400 times their average employee. It is these things that make me go crazy.
Matthew Dryden
· 1 year ago
It's a pretty simple business strategy: Pay the workers for less than what they produce.
Example? Most shoe factory workers can't afford to buy the shoes.
william powell
· 1 year ago
If I were a Christian, which I am not, I would say,"AMEN! And God bless you"
Cath Lawson
· 1 year ago
Hi Jim - that is an awesome amount of cash they've got between them. Why on earth do they need it all? There's some awesome ideas here. It's shocking to know just how much has been wasted since Bush became President of your country.
~ Jim
· 1 year ago
That is what I do not understand. I am not rich, but I give away so much. I bill at half the rate of most people with my skills,and it is plenty for me. Why someone needs to have billions of dpllars and not help out is beyond me.
What has happened to people when they let their own greed run their lives...
Havvy
· 1 year ago
Points 1 and 2 are on the money. Point three is what is suppose to happen. Point 4 causes problem number 6. Instead, we own you, we remove any power you have, and we dump you would be a better strategy. In fact, I think it's called bankruptcy.
On point 5, change 'all' to 'most'. Not all regulations are needed. In truth, not all regulations are needed. Eventually bad business models fail, and when they do, they fail hard causing a depression. If people learned this, they wouldn't create mega-entities.
On point 6, that's just another regulation, and while it's a good one because it stops massive failures and huge scams, it is still technically unneeded, but still massively wanted.
On point 7, see point 6, and notice the 'huge scams' part.
On point 8, look at problem 6, with the Too Big to Fail thing. If you give too much power to the central gov't, when it falls, you create a huge depression.
On point 9, I'll just give a 'duh' to this, and be in agreement.
On point 10, I disagree because of the bystander effect. If we all own it, nobody will give it responsibility because they can rely on everybody else to. Instead, let businesses that are not in control of gov't (or gov't controlled) create monetary policy for their currencies. The thing here though, is that this is also idealistic, as it would in effect create a more fascist gov't. That is something we don't want.
Ben
· 1 year ago
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
How DOES that work out?
Adjutor
· 1 year ago
"Ben:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
How DOES that work out?"
It works out well for those in control. Michael Moore is a socialist moron. I am not pleased with the bailout, but to blame capitalism for something that has nothing to do with it is a deliberate vicious lie. We don't have capitalism in this country.
~ Jim
· 1 year ago
@Havvy - Regulations are needed, but who will regulate and who will regulate the one regulators. A never ending problem. ON point 10 "If we really are itching to print up a trillion dollars, instead of giving it to a few rich people, why don’t we give it to ourselves?" Maybe creating a "people's bank" isn't the correct idea, but I can't see putting the money back into the hands of the people who misused it in the first place.
@Ben - Are you saying that Michael Moore is speaking like a Communist? Do you not think that it is greedy to own a company and make 400 times more than the employees who actually make it work. To get paid just for an idea, and not get paid for the labor. I guess I don't understand.
smilidon
· 1 year ago
your crazy as always. But at least I get a good laugh out of you peoples insane rants. I have to go now I volunteered to help at the Palin viewing party tonight.
bulgarian solicitor
· 1 year ago
Or alternatively, you could just follow the Constitution and not do the bailout.
Marelisa
· 1 year ago
I was watching CNN today and apparently the Senators attached a whole bunch of earmarks to the bailout so that it would pass. So now it's even more expensive than before. Regardless of who's to blame for the mess, something needs to be done or things will probably just get a lot worse. That being said, there does need to be an investigation as to how this happened, to learn from it so that hopefully it doesn't happen again, and so that the right people are held accountable.
~ Jim
· 1 year ago
I would be interested in finding out what earmarks they put in. If the bill does pass then it will not matter who is accountable, because they will not be allowed to be prosecuted.
Dereck Coatney
· 1 year ago
I agree. How much is enough? The guys sitting there, gluttoning on their estates. I want to ask: "Are you full yet? Or do you need more?"
Personally, I doubt I could actually stomach that kind of wealth, especially coming from my background.
The question of all questions. How much is enough?
Intelitary Milligence
· 1 year ago
They're bailing out NASCAR in the earmarks.
It's an absolute insult.
Tired of the middle class bail
· 1 year ago
The big wigs of these organizations should only be able to collect salaries equal to what they'd get on unemployment. I am tired of not being able to get ahead and stay ahead while these greedy billionaires continue to pick my pocket. They should be held accountable for any fraud, etc. also. We need to take back OUR government. Time for a new sheriff in town.
Matthew Dryden
· 1 year ago
Coming back to this, I think the whole fucking thing is retarded. My wife is completely obsessed with American and Canadian politics and policies and other crap that I don't honestly give two shits about.
And we got this crazy bailout, and suddenly NOTHING changes. So they just paid out almost 3/4 of a trillion dollars to watch the markets keep even. Fucking retarded.
~ Jim
· 1 year ago
I couldn't agree more Matthew (Not sure if you like being called Matt). The only thing going to change is how much money we keep giving away...
itsalljustaride
· 1 year ago
Apparently Wall Street is now saying that a lot of banks aren't going to accept the money because it has too many provisions in it that tie their hands (duh, maybe their hands need to be tied). So before they were crying out, "We need it or the economy will fail, pass it already, pass it or we'll all die!", and now it's more like, "oh, hmm, well, we don't need it THAT bad, no thanks, but the thought was nice". Lame.
"The richest 400 Americans - that's right, just four hundred people - own MORE than the bottom 150 million Americans combined. 400 rich Americans have got more stashed away than half the entire country! Their combined net worth is $1.6 trillion. During the eight years of the Bush Administration, their wealth has increased by nearly $700 billion - the same amount that they are now demanding we give to them for the "bailout." Why don't they just spend the money they made under Bush to bail themselves out? They'd still have nearly a trillion dollars left over to spread amongst themselves!" ... the wealth inequality in the United States has reached record levels, worse than at any time during United States history -- even worse than during the great depression, when the accrued debt of consumers left them with nothing to spend and the economy collapsed under its own weight ... seems as though history is repeating itself, as we are yet to learn from our own past mistakes ...
~ Jim
· 1 year ago
"Why don’t they just spend the money they made under Bush to bail themselves out?"
Greed, bottom line. I wouldn't know what to do with 700 billion, I would try to help as many people as I can.
Random Rants
· 3 months ago
Oh what I would do with that kind of money... *gazes off into the distance while day-dreaming*
Frances Morey
· 2 months ago
Michael Moore should serve in Congress, along with Al Franken, and Senator Sanders. That would be the only way to put into effect the 10 points he raised which are so sorely needed. The silent majority has lost their voice, mass actions and protests ended with Vietnam. Lyndon Johnson may have been the last elected official disturbed by such an outpouring of public opinion. Now the country has fallen into a sullen silence, the media is co-opted and hope for the best has gone out the window.
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This all sounds very nice, but I wonder if it'll make a difference.
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Couldn't they help out? But they would never. Then CEO's making almost 400 times their average employee. It is these things that make me go crazy.
Example? Most shoe factory workers can't afford to buy the shoes.
What has happened to people when they let their own greed run their lives...
On point 5, change 'all' to 'most'. Not all regulations are needed. In truth, not all regulations are needed. Eventually bad business models fail, and when they do, they fail hard causing a depression. If people learned this, they wouldn't create mega-entities.
On point 6, that's just another regulation, and while it's a good one because it stops massive failures and huge scams, it is still technically unneeded, but still massively wanted.
On point 7, see point 6, and notice the 'huge scams' part.
On point 8, look at problem 6, with the Too Big to Fail thing. If you give too much power to the central gov't, when it falls, you create a huge depression.
On point 9, I'll just give a 'duh' to this, and be in agreement.
On point 10, I disagree because of the bystander effect. If we all own it, nobody will give it responsibility because they can rely on everybody else to. Instead, let businesses that are not in control of gov't (or gov't controlled) create monetary policy for their currencies. The thing here though, is that this is also idealistic, as it would in effect create a more fascist gov't. That is something we don't want.
How DOES that work out?
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
How DOES that work out?"
It works out well for those in control. Michael Moore is a socialist moron. I am not pleased with the bailout, but to blame capitalism for something that has nothing to do with it is a deliberate vicious lie. We don't have capitalism in this country.
@Ben - Are you saying that Michael Moore is speaking like a Communist? Do you not think that it is greedy to own a company and make 400 times more than the employees who actually make it work. To get paid just for an idea, and not get paid for the labor. I guess I don't understand.
Personally, I doubt I could actually stomach that kind of wealth, especially coming from my background.
Good article, got my stumble... :)
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It's an absolute insult.
I am tired of not being able to get ahead and stay ahead while these greedy billionaires continue to pick my pocket.
They should be held accountable for any fraud, etc. also.
We need to take back OUR government. Time for a new sheriff in town.
And we got this crazy bailout, and suddenly NOTHING changes. So they just paid out almost 3/4 of a trillion dollars to watch the markets keep even. Fucking retarded.
Sean.
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Greed, bottom line. I wouldn't know what to do with 700 billion, I would try to help as many people as I can.